I am new to this forum and amused to see the way you guys are taking time to explain all the questions. From today onwards I ‘ll be a part of this discussion and ‘ll share few good quant questions which I have collected from many different sources. Q1. If n is a positive integer then Q2. How many times a fair die must be thrown to get all the possible values at least once? Q3. There are three piles of coins. Two players take turns to remove any number of coins from any single pile. The last person able to make a move wins. Q4. How many divisors does 1200193 have and what is the sum of all those divisors? __________________
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Q1. If n is a positive integer then
n(n+1)(n+2)(n+3) + 1 is
i. Always an even number
ii. Always a perfect square
iii. Both (i) and (ii)
iv. Cant be determined.
Ans) put n=1, u'll get 25= 5^2
put n=2, u'll get 121= 11^2
put n=3, u'll get 361 = 19^2
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n so on....u'll always get a perfect sq, so the ans is option (ii)
Q2. How many times a fair die must be thrown to get all the possible values at least once?
Ans) I think it depends on is it min or max??
if min no of times, then ans = 6
if max no of times, then ans = infinite
so according to me it cannot be determined !!
Q1 ans is perfect
but i think there must be some better way to prove it.
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wat abt Q2??? is dat correct??? m trying other qns as well..vil tell u if i reach to a solutn
let see Q1:
the product of 4 consecutive +ve integers is divisible by 4!
thus the given number n(n+1)(n+2)(n+3)+1 is odd. eliminate 1 and 3.
n(n+1)(n+2)(n+3) = n(n+3)(n+1)(n+2) i just rearranged the terms and it works like magic!
let n2+3n = x , should be obvious why i did this.
x(x+2) + 1 = x2 + 2x + 1 which is definitely a perfrct sqaure.
so Option 2 is definitely correct.
Q2. the problem looks funny but it is not , believe me!
The problem is to find the EXPECTED NUMBER OF TRIALS for the given condition to happen. I am not very good at these questions , but i hope someone is and understands what i mean.
QUESTION 4 is textbook : The big pain being to fing the prime factors of 1200193 which i wont take, who knows the number could be prime and iwould have wasted half a day.
let me give the formula generally :
if p = am * bn * co * ..... where a,b,c are prime.
thrn the number of divisors = (m+1)(n+1)(o+1).....
the sum of divisors = [(am - 1)(bn - 1)(co - 1)......]/[(a-1)(b-1)(c-1).....]
That is it.
I don’t think such higher-level questions are asked in CAT but you never know. I am trying my best to explain it in simple terms.
What is Expected Value
What is the expected value when a dice is thrown ?
we can get 1, 2 , 3, 4, 5 or 6 and the probability of getting each value is 1/6.
So the expected value when the dice is thrown only once
= 1 x (1/6) + 2 x (1/6) + 3 x (1/6) + 4 x (1/6) + 5 x (1/6) + 6 x (1/6)
= 3.5
Which means every a time a dice is thrown we expect to get a value of 3.5.
In mathematical terms
The expected value of a random variable indicates its average or central value.
Now coming back to the question
How many times a fair die must be thrown to get all the possible values at least once ?
A fair dice has 6 faces and when we throw it for the first time the probability that we ‘ll get a face (any face and lets consider face with value 6) = 1
=> we have to throw the dice only once to get any face
When the dice is thrown for the second time, the probability of a getting a different face (not 6 , any other value say 5) = 5/6
=> we have to throw the dice (1 + 6/5 ) times to get any 2 different faces
. . . . .
Similarly to get 6 different faces we have to throw the dice 1 + 6/5 + 6/4 + 6/3 + 6/2 + 6 = 14.7 times.
For an n-sided die, the number of rolls needed, on average, is = 1 + n/(n-1) + n/(n-2) = S(N/I) for I = 1 to N.
For large n, this is approximately n log n.
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i totally agree with nishit. i dunno why everybody is trying so hard at the quant thing. that question would give a tough time to guys studyying for iit jee.
hey buddy the formula to calculate the sum of allt he divisors that u gave is a bit wrong
it should be a^m+1 rather than a^m in the formula.
like try it for 8, it can be written as 2^3
and there sum is =[ {2^(3+1)} - 1]/ {(2-1)}
regards
dinesh
my GP isn't so strong then :). anyways good you pointed that out .
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