GD TOPIC 7 : Umpires should be Umpired ?

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 GD TOPIC 7:

Umpires should be Umpired ?

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To error is human. Players

To error is human. Players do errors and so does umpires. If players get penalized for all their on field misdoings then why cant umpires.

Few says ICC should penalize the concerned umpire for making such poor decision, which affect the result of the match completely but then arises the question how to know which decision was important

Few other suggest that we should allow more technologies on the field to help umpires in making crucial decisions. I really don’t like this idea; if you can’t believe a human then you should not believe a technology developed by humans.
What is the assurance that the technology will not be manipulated?

What are your opinion guys. .

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Its true a game loses its

Its true a game loses its charm when few handful people start dictating its result. Because of the current Steve Bucknor drama the issue of umpiring has again a hot topic. But he is not the only umpire who is alleged to be partial. Darrell Hair throughout his umpiring career has been a controversial figure. Billy Doctrove and Asad Rauf have made many errors (and still continuing) in recent years. Rudi Koertzen has also been criticized many times because of his poor umpiring (esp. after giving sangakara out for 197)..
So who we left with : Simon Taufel, Billy Bowden, Aleem Dar , Daryl Harper
 and Mark Benson.

So we want these 5 gentlemen to umpire all the matches and what happens if one of them also makes few mistakes. I think instead of asking some one to retire, ICC should think about some better alternate.

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@ secondharsa, I guess its

@ secondharsa, I guess its 192. . Any how I agree with your point – ICC doesn’t have a pool of good resource to choose and that’s the main reason why they keep on forgiving the mistakes of umpires like Hier/Bucknor.

Steve Waugh has said
"The world's No.1 umpire for the past three years is Simon Taufel from Sydney and he should be out in the middle making the crucial decisions under pressure for this is what the best aspire to. I believe the argument for neutral umpires was valid years ago when there was a degree of acceptance for mediocrity due to a lack of television cameras and part-time officials, while the scourge of match-fixing was also lurking beneath the surface."

I believe what he has said and really doubt if an umpire like Simon Taufel ‘ll ever take a bias decision against a visiting team. He is not the only man, other names mentioned by secondharsa also belongs to that league.

I think ICC should try to bring all the best umpires round the world, give them some rigorous training (which should also include moral values) and then give them a permanent job of few years with a salary and make them accountable towards their job.

Technology in no means can be an alternate to field umpires. It should be used to the minimum level.

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umpiring over the role of umpire

Umpires should be Umpired ? pritty nice to start with the role of umpire it is just like the role of a master when we were in our kindergarten.

we were might  be asocial , arrogant and created a lot of fuss about proving our point.you may think what is the use of saying this here, but indeed it make sence as we proceed here.

left cricket in almost every game we have a monitoring person and it make sence but after the inclusion of technologies in every game attracted lot of attention , who can miss the line calls that was being made by rojer fedrer during last wimbuldon finals

it helped a lot and made game more error free as sometimes monitoring becomes a worrisome task and next to impossible without usuing technology.

that's why we are seeing plenty of  technologies patch work on the pathway of every game and it helps indeed. whether it is third umpire call for critical decisions and many mores.

but sometimes players tries to play some tricks with umpires and try to pressuries them and which give sometimes a funny aftermaths e.g. is last to last soccer world cup ronhaldino famous brazilian footballer got a penalty for his team by playing the same foul play.

so in such conditions a boss over the boss on the ground required which can see through all this.

this is what i 'd like to say might sound a bit bouring .

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Errors are to be learnt from...not to practice for

To err is human as it has been said right from the begining of the mankind..but ir should be always remembered that errors are the guidelines for the improvement of anybody.if be talk about the umpiring it's player at the receiving end and not the umpires...ultimately it's the spirit of the game which is ruined ultimately...so why don't one can put his ego,and self respect aside and take the help of the technology when it is jst at your hand's reach and keep everyone happy...in the true spirit of the game...let's say cheers to the umpiring and hope just they learn from the mistakes and keep the spirit of the game alive.....

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umpires should be umpired

 nowdays technology is a boon for human beings  , so to err is a human has got its  solution atleast in taking critical decisions in cricket matches . i do not believe that technology can take place of umpires  but if the umpires have ben provided with some privelege then why not you take advantage .

but in case of buckner this wasn't aquestion of taking advantage or disadvantage but , it is partial nature   mistakes can be mended  but bias nature can't be changed ,  and in any case umpires are umpired that is if you increase the powers of match refree  , then ,who can have surity that he will be impartial . isn't it be better that match refrees are choosen from from different sub -continent  or umpires are from both the countries  , they should give decisions collectively and if they contradict then consult the technology

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Well Neha who is more

Well Neha who is more creditworthy an umpire or a camera man. . If we don’t believe a highly paid, cricket knowledgeable person how can we have faith on persons involved in showing pictures?

Who‘ll guarantee that what we see is the real picture. . Technically it’s very easy to tamper everything. .

I have more faith on umpires than cameraman/technical persons/commentators. .all of them works for private owned companies and not for ICC.

Is it possible for ICC to take control of all the live telecast? If yes and if they have trustworthy workers then I don’t have any issue but I cant believe an employee of ESPN-STAR SPORTS / TEN SPORTS/DD.

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It'll further complicate the Game...

The idea of umpiring Umpires is a very sensitive issue. It may prove to be a double-edged sword. While it is very true that technology can be used in a few more areas of decisions such as a contentiously grassed catch or a bat-pad catch appeal where the upmire is not fully satisfied with the opposition's appeal, LBW decisions must be given instantly by the on-field Umpires themselves. Else the game of cricket will lose all its charm of being a game of human involvement. The Umpire considers variuos aspects before deciding on an LBW, so it won't be prudent taking the LBW decisions under the umbrela of Third Umpiring. The recent unfortuanate event of Steve Bucknor doing so many umpiring mistakes and eventually India losing the match is a jerking alarm for the rule makers and ICC. But, of course, had India won the match or if it would have been a draw, or in that case, the Bucknor victimized both the teams on an even scale, the Indians would not have put the proceedings under the heavy sledge hammer that they have used to teach a lesson to the ICC.

 

Another matter that can be debated in this regard is  "Is not the Ban Imposed on Harbhajan by Match Referee Mike Procter--Without any Solid Proof-- a humiliation of Cricketing Morals?"

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Good but bad

secondharsa u tell good thing but from my point of view no any listner can digest it

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TOPC IS DO YOU THINK AND ACT

TOPC IS DO YOU THINK AND ACT OR ACT AND THINK . PLEASE GIVE UR VIEWS

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